{"id":4260,"date":"2022-09-05T17:55:42","date_gmt":"2022-09-05T22:55:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/staging\/3703\/2022\/09\/05\/electric-start\/"},"modified":"2022-09-16T13:37:57","modified_gmt":"2022-09-16T18:37:57","slug":"electric-start","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/2022\/09\/05\/electric-start\/","title":{"rendered":"Electric Start"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A couple of years ago the electric start on our 1990 Mercury 25hp outboard stopped working. I\u2019d thought about taking it in to a marina to get it repaired but that would be awkward, put the boat out of commission for an unknown amount of time and likely be costly. It still started well with the manual \u201cpull the rope\u201d method so nothing was done. This year it was the target of a DIY repair.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/staging\/3703\/wp-content\/img_4276-768x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4255\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4276-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4276-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4276-113x150.jpg 113w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4276-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4276-1536x2048.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Old Faithful &#8211; Roaming the lake for over 30 years!<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The predecessor to the Merc 25hp was a Merc 20 hp. One year my dad decided an electric start would be a good idea. Perhaps there was a day when it was a little reluctant to start and there were too many pulls on the cord. I suspect the 20hp model couldn\u2019t be upgraded with electric start so the 25hp was purchased for the grant sum of $2,595.00<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The button for the electric start had failed once before so it seemed the logical thing to check first. Sure enough the continuity meter said there was no connection when the button was pressed. A button was ordered, waited for, and eventually made it\u2019s way to the lake and was installed. Nope, still no working electric start. ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The next likely culprit is the starter motor. Connecting it directly to the battery produced nothing so I\u2018m pretty sure it\u2019s broken.  I\u2019d previously ruled out the battery itself by charging it up and also substituting in a known good and newer battery. I removed the starter motor and disassemble it to investigate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/staging\/3703\/wp-content\/img_4263-1024x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4256\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4263-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4263-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4263-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4263-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4263-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4263-2048x2048.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4263-200x200.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4263-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4263-40x40.jpg 40w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4263-50x50.jpg 50w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The starter motor on the bench<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The first problem with the starter is that the wire connected to one of the brushes has broken off. In the picture below the copper braid wire and loop hanging off on the right side should be connected to the  terminal above.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/staging\/3703\/wp-content\/img_4264-1024x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4257\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4264-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4264-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4264-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4264-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4264-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4264-2048x2048.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4264-200x200.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4264-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4264-40x40.jpg 40w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4264-50x50.jpg 50w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Problem #1<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I solder the wire onto the terminal but I\u2019m not very confident that this repair will hold up to the the demands of the starter but it\u2019s worth a shot.<br \/><br \/>Problem number 2 is that a piece of the magnet inside the housing has cracked and is just rattling around loose. It\u2019s not too big so perhaps it will still work with a bit less magnetic force.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/staging\/3703\/wp-content\/img_4265-1024x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4258\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4265-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4265-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4265-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4265-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4265-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4265-2048x2048.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4265-200x200.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4265-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4265-40x40.jpg 40w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4265-50x50.jpg 50w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Problem #2<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I reassemble and reinstall the starter motor and no luck, still no working electric start.<br \/><br \/>Ok, a replacement starter motor is located, thanks to Amazon, ordered, waited for and eventually it makes it\u2019s way to the lake. I install the new starter, push the button and nope, still no working electric start.  Power directly to the starter motor proved that the new starter is working.<br \/><br \/>This is getting a little frustrating. Good thing the Merc is still usable with manual starting.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This pretty much leaves only one component to be the \u201cproblem child\u201d, the solenoid.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/staging\/3703\/wp-content\/img_4280-1024x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4259\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4280-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4280-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4280-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4280-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4280-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4280-2048x2048.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4280-200x200.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4280-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4280-40x40.jpg 40w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4280-50x50.jpg 50w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Starter (on the left) and Solenoid (on the right)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In the photo above the solenoid is the little black thing with the yellow and red wires connected to it. It\u2019s function is to connect the lower current starter button to close a connection between the higher current yellow and red wires which sent 12V+ to the starter motor. Shorting out the solenoid across the yellow and red wires causes the starter motor to fire up. This test pretty much indicates that the solenoid is not doing it\u2019s job.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"896\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/staging\/3703\/wp-content\/img_4287-896x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4268\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4287-896x1024.jpg 896w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4287-263x300.jpg 263w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4287-131x150.jpg 131w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4287-768x877.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4287-1345x1536.jpg 1345w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4287-1793x2048.jpg 1793w, https:\/\/www.bigdadoo.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/img_4287.jpg 1931w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 896px) 100vw, 896px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The old one.  8996054. 2835<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So, a solenoid part is located, thanks to Amazon, ordered, waited for, and eventually makes it\u2019s way to the lake and is installed. With great anticipation the button is pressed and \u2026 nothing! This is quite disappointing and annoying as I\u2019m pretty sure there is nothing left that has not been checked or replaced with working parts. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What the photo doesn\u2019t show clearly is that there are 4 wires connected to the solenoid and I\u2019ve only connected 3. After connecting the last wire we finally have success!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">At this point all the components involved in the electric start system, except the wires themselves, have been replaces. Replaced slowly, over the course of close to two months. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It\u2019s nice to have the electric start working once again and I\u2018ve learned pretty much everything there is to know about an electric start on a 1990 Mercury 25hp outboard motor.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A couple of years ago the electric start on our 1990 Mercury 25hp outboard stopped working. I\u2019d thought about taking it in to a marina to get it repaired but that would be awkward, put the boat out of commission for an unknown amount of time and likely be costly. 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